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Well, I tried reading pretty much all articles but I haven't found any hint.

After receiving my official certificates from StartSSL I am still unable to launch my applet without UNKNOWN publisher warning.

I used

jarsigner Connect4Client.jar MyConnectCert

I checked with

jarsigner -verify -verbose -certs Connect4Client.jar

and it looks all fine:

s k     1388 Thu May 09 14:04:54 PDT 2013 META-INF/MANIFEST.MF

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

        1550 Thu May 09 14:04:54 PDT 2013 META-INF/MYCONNEC.SF
        5771 Thu May 09 14:04:54 PDT 2013 META-INF/MYCONNEC.RSA
           0 Thu May 09 12:51:24 PDT 2013 META-INF/
smk     7437 Thu May 09 12:51:20 PDT 2013 Connect4.class

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk     2588 Thu May 09 12:51:22 PDT 2013 Connect4ClientConnection.class

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk     1410 Thu May 09 12:51:22 PDT 2013 Connect4Engine.class

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk     2901 Thu May 09 12:51:24 PDT 2013 Connect4State.class

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk     2002 Thu May 09 12:51:24 PDT 2013 SocketAction.class

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk    22593 Sat Apr 06 13:16:46 PST 1996 res/applause.au

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk     1864 Sat Apr 06 13:16:28 PST 1996 res/badmove.au

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk     1559 Sat Apr 06 13:16:06 PST 1996 res/bluemove.au

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk     1308 Sat Apr 06 11:43:16 PST 1996 res/blupiece.gif

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk    21870 Sat Apr 06 11:53:30 PST 1996 res/board.gif

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk      957 Tue Apr 09 17:51:48 PDT 1996 res/hand.gif

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk    15817 Sat Apr 06 13:15:50 PST 1996 res/newgame.au

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk     3874 Sat Apr 06 13:15:24 PST 1996 res/redmove.au

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk     1282 Sat Apr 06 11:42:40 PST 1996 res/redpiece.gif

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

smk    11720 Sat Apr 06 13:15:04 PST 1996 res/sad.au

      X.509, EMAILADDRESS=<personal>@gmail.com, CN=<personal>, L=<personal> CA, ST=California, C=US (myconnectcert)
      [certificate is valid from 5/8/13 5:32 PM to 5/9/15 8:38 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Class 2 Primary Intermediate Object CA, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca.sub.class2)
      [certificate is valid from 10/24/07 3:01 PM to 10/24/17 3:01 PM]
      X.509, CN=StartCom Certification Authority, OU=Secure Digital Certificate Signing, O=StartCom Ltd., C=IL (startcom.ca)
      [certificate is valid from 9/17/06 12:46 PM to 9/17/36 12:46 PM]

           0 Wed Apr 17 00:57:50 PDT 2013 res/

  s = signature was verified 
  m = entry is listed in manifest
  k = at least one certificate was found in keystore
  i = at least one certificate was found in identity scope

jar verified.

So why does the publisher still show up as unknown? What am I missing? Another cert or does this have to do with Java 7 (which is installed) or Safari (10.8)? Or is it because the browser does not recognize StartCom as valid CA?

Additional information: I checked the java console and got the following:

cache: Initialize resource manager: com.sun.deploy.cache.ResourceProviderImpl@63d1e70a
security: property package.access value sun.,com.sun.xml.internal.bind.,com.sun.xml.internal.org.jvnet.staxex.,com.sun.xml.internal.ws.,com.sun.imageio.,com.sun.istack.internal.,com.sun.jmx.,com.sun.proxy.,com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.apache.xalan.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.glassfish.external.,com.sun.org.glassfish.gmbal.,apple.
security: property package.access new value sun.,com.sun.xml.internal.bind.,com.sun.xml.internal.org.jvnet.staxex.,com.sun.xml.internal.ws.,com.sun.imageio.,com.sun.istack.internal.,com.sun.jmx.,com.sun.proxy.,com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.apache.xalan.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.glassfish.external.,com.sun.org.glassfish.gmbal.,apple.,com.sun.javaws,com.sun.deploy,com.sun.jnlp
security: property package.definition value sun.,com.sun.xml.internal.bind.,com.sun.xml.internal.org.jvnet.staxex.,com.sun.xml.internal.ws.,com.sun.imageio.,com.sun.istack.internal.,com.sun.jmx.,com.sun.proxy.,com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.apache.xalan.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.glassfish.external.,com.sun.org.glassfish.gmbal.,apple.
security: property package.definition new value sun.,com.sun.xml.internal.bind.,com.sun.xml.internal.org.jvnet.staxex.,com.sun.xml.internal.ws.,com.sun.imageio.,com.sun.istack.internal.,com.sun.jmx.,com.sun.proxy.,com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.apache.xalan.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.glassfish.external.,com.sun.org.glassfish.gmbal.,apple.,com.sun.javaws,com.sun.deploy,com.sun.jnlp
security: property package.access value sun.,com.sun.xml.internal.bind.,com.sun.xml.internal.org.jvnet.staxex.,com.sun.xml.internal.ws.,com.sun.imageio.,com.sun.istack.internal.,com.sun.jmx.,com.sun.proxy.,com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.apache.xalan.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.glassfish.external.,com.sun.org.glassfish.gmbal.,apple.,com.sun.javaws,com.sun.deploy,com.sun.jnlp
security: property package.access new value sun.,com.sun.xml.internal.bind.,com.sun.xml.internal.org.jvnet.staxex.,com.sun.xml.internal.ws.,com.sun.imageio.,com.sun.istack.internal.,com.sun.jmx.,com.sun.proxy.,com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.apache.xalan.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.glassfish.external.,com.sun.org.glassfish.gmbal.,apple.,com.sun.javaws,com.sun.deploy,com.sun.jnlp,org.mozilla.jss
security: property package.definition value sun.,com.sun.xml.internal.bind.,com.sun.xml.internal.org.jvnet.staxex.,com.sun.xml.internal.ws.,com.sun.imageio.,com.sun.istack.internal.,com.sun.jmx.,com.sun.proxy.,com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.apache.xalan.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.glassfish.external.,com.sun.org.glassfish.gmbal.,apple.,com.sun.javaws,com.sun.deploy,com.sun.jnlp
security: property package.definition new value sun.,com.sun.xml.internal.bind.,com.sun.xml.internal.org.jvnet.staxex.,com.sun.xml.internal.ws.,com.sun.imageio.,com.sun.istack.internal.,com.sun.jmx.,com.sun.proxy.,com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.apache.xalan.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.glassfish.external.,com.sun.org.glassfish.gmbal.,apple.,com.sun.javaws,com.sun.deploy,com.sun.jnlp,org.mozilla.jss
security: property package.access value sun.,com.sun.xml.internal.bind.,com.sun.xml.internal.org.jvnet.staxex.,com.sun.xml.internal.ws.,com.sun.imageio.,com.sun.istack.internal.,com.sun.jmx.,com.sun.proxy.,com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.apache.xalan.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.glassfish.external.,com.sun.org.glassfish.gmbal.,apple.,com.sun.javaws,com.sun.deploy,com.sun.jnlp,org.mozilla.jss
security: property package.access new value sun.,com.sun.xml.internal.bind.,com.sun.xml.internal.org.jvnet.staxex.,com.sun.xml.internal.ws.,com.sun.imageio.,com.sun.istack.internal.,com.sun.jmx.,com.sun.proxy.,com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.apache.xalan.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.glassfish.external.,com.sun.org.glassfish.gmbal.,apple.,com.sun.javaws,com.sun.deploy,com.sun.jnlp,org.mozilla.jss,com.sun.browser,com.sun.glass,com.sun.javafx,com.sun.media.jfxmedia,com.sun.media.jfxmediaimpl,com.sun.openpisces,com.sun.prism,com.sun.scenario,com.sun.t2k,com.sun.webpane,com.sun.pisces,com.sun.webkit
security: property package.definition value sun.,com.sun.xml.internal.bind.,com.sun.xml.internal.org.jvnet.staxex.,com.sun.xml.internal.ws.,com.sun.imageio.,com.sun.istack.internal.,com.sun.jmx.,com.sun.proxy.,com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.apache.xalan.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.glassfish.external.,com.sun.org.glassfish.gmbal.,apple.,com.sun.javaws,com.sun.deploy,com.sun.jnlp,org.mozilla.jss
security: property package.definition new value sun.,com.sun.xml.internal.bind.,com.sun.xml.internal.org.jvnet.staxex.,com.sun.xml.internal.ws.,com.sun.imageio.,com.sun.istack.internal.,com.sun.jmx.,com.sun.proxy.,com.sun.org.apache.xerces.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.apache.xalan.internal.utils.,com.sun.org.glassfish.external.,com.sun.org.glassfish.gmbal.,apple.,com.sun.javaws,com.sun.deploy,com.sun.jnlp,org.mozilla.jss,com.sun.browser,com.sun.glass,com.sun.javafx,com.sun.media.jfxmedia,com.sun.media.jfxmediaimpl,com.sun.openpisces,com.sun.prism,com.sun.scenario,com.sun.t2k,com.sun.webpane,com.sun.pisces,com.sun.webkit
basic: tap installed
basic: Creating PluginEmbeddedFrame served by com.apple.java.jrs.carenderserver-12351
basic: Done creating PluginEmbeddedFrame
basic: Added progress listener: sun.plugin.util.ProgressMonitorAdapter@591882e6
basic: Plugin2ClassLoader.addURL parent called for file:/Users/<personal>/xxxxxxxxxx/Connect4Client.jar
security: Blacklist revocation check is enabled
security: Trusted libraries list check is enabled
security: Trusted libraries list file not found
network: Cache entry not found [url: file:/Users/<personal>/Desktop/xxxxxxxxxx/Connect4Client.jar, version: null]
security: Accessing keys and certificate in Mozilla user profile: null
security: Loading certificates from Deployment session certificate store
security: Loaded certificates from Deployment session certificate store
security: Validate the certificate chain using CertPath API
security: Loading Root CA certificates from /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/Contents/Home/lib/security/cacerts
security: Loaded Root CA certificates from /Library/Internet Plug-Ins/JavaAppletPlugin.plugin/Contents/Home/lib/security/cacerts
security: Obtain certificate collection in Root CA certificate store
security: Obtain certificate collection in Root CA certificate store
security: Obtain certificate collection in Root CA certificate store
security: Obtain certificate collection in Root CA certificate store
security: The certificate hasnt been expired, no need to check timestamping info
security: Cannot find jurisdiction list file
security: The CRL support is disabled
security: The OCSP support is disabled
security: This OCSP End Entity validation is disabled
security: Checking if certificate is in Deployment denied certificate store
security: Checking if certificate is in Deployment permanent certificate store
security: Checking if certificate is in Deployment session certificate store

This is a object code signing certificate from StartCom. I explicitly imported the StartCom certs just before to make sure these were found but still no go.

mdpb
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  • Well, did you check the browser certificate store to see if StartCom's CA certificate is included? – Jim Garrison May 10 '13 at 03:24
  • DYM you got it from [StartSSL PKI](http://www.startssl.com/)? I don't think those are **code** signing certificates. They are certificates for domains/web sites. – Andrew Thompson May 10 '13 at 03:39
  • The certificate I used was an object code signing class 2 certificate to sign code, it was not a site certificate. StartCom supplies 4 certificates: S/MIME, Web Server SSL, XMPP and object code certs. – mdpb May 10 '13 at 04:05
  • Can you point me to the URL where I can see these certificates? The 'code signing' equivalent of the URL I put above? My google-fu is on the fritz.. – Andrew Thompson May 10 '13 at 04:44
  • I am not sure, but it may help you. Have a look @ http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15381538/java-security-accesscontrolexception-when-using-java-awt-robot-class-for-screen/15382786#comment21772822_15382786 – Shailesh Saxena May 10 '13 at 05:35
  • The certificates from start com are at: https://www.startssl.com/certs/ca.cer, https://www.startssl.com/certs/sub.class2.code.ca.pem, https://www.startssl.com/certs/sub.class3.code.ca.pem – mdpb May 10 '13 at 13:56
  • Got the answer, StartCom replied that their certificates will not work for Applet signing which is a big let down for me considering I found their pricing mentioned on some site specifically stating that they were not expensive and that they enabled Applet signing. This is in effect true, the issue though is that their certs will just not resolve that what you are trying to achieve. Sigh. – mdpb May 12 '13 at 04:53

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Got the answer, StartCom replied that their certificates will not work for Applet signing which is a big let down for me considering I found their pricing mentioned on some site specifically stating that they were not expensive and that they enabled Applet signing. This is in effect true, the issue though is that their certs will just not resolve that what you are trying to achieve. Sigh.

mdpb
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