Suppose you want to write a program that asks the user for X numbers and store them in A, then for Y numbers and store them in B
BEFORE YOU VOTE FOR CLOSING : yes, this question has been asked here, here, here, here and possibly elsewhere, but I reply to each of the proposed solutions in this question explaining why they're not what I'm looking for, so please keep reading before voting for closing IF you decide it's a duplicate. This is a serious question, see last paragraph for a small selection of languages supporting the feature I'm trying to achieve here.
A = []
B = []
# First possibilty : using while loops
# you need to have a counter
i = 0
while (i < X):
A.append(input())
# and increment it yourself
i+=1
# you need to reset it
i = 0
while (i < Y):
B.append(input())
# and increment it again
i+=1
So basically you need to repeat a certain thing x times, then another Y times, but python has only while loops and for loops. The while loop is not to repeat a certain thing N times, but to repeat things while a certain condition is True, that's why you have to use a counter, initialize it, increment it, and test against it.
Second solution is to use for loops :
# No need to create a counter
for x in xrange(x):
A.append(input())
# No need to increment the counter
# no need to reset the counter
for x in xrange(Y):
B.append(input())
This is a lot better :), but there's still something slightly anoying : why would I still have to supply "x", when I don't need x ? In my code, I don't need to know in what loop iteration I am, i just need to repeat things N times, so why do I have to create a counter at all ? Isn't there a way to completely get rid of counters ? imagine you could write something like :
# No need to supply any variable !
repeat(x):
A.append(input())
repeat(Y):
B.append(input())
Wouldn't that be more elegant ? wouldn't that reflect more accurately your intention to possible readers of your code ? unfortunately, python isn't flexible enough to allow for creating new language constructs (more advanced languages allow this). So I still have to use either for or while to loop over things. With that restriction in mind, how do I get the most closer possible to the upper code ?
Here's what I tried
def repeat(limit):
if hasattr(repeat,"counter"):
repeat.counter += 1
return repeat.counter < limit
repeat.limit = limit
repeat.counters = 0
return limit > 0 and True
while repeat(x):
A.append(input())
while repeat(Y):
B.append(input())
This solution works for simple loops, but obviously not for nested loops.
My question is
Do you know any other possible implementation that would allow me to get the same interface as repeat ?
Rebbutal of suggested solutions
suggested solution 1.1 : use itertools.repeat
you'll have to place your code inside a function and call that function inside itertools.repeat, somehow. It's different from the above repeat implementation where you can use it over arbitrary indented blocks of code.
suggestion solution 1.2 : use itertools.repeat in a for loop
import itertools
for _ in itertools.repeat(None, N):
do_something()
you're still writing a for loop, and for loops need a variable (you're providing _), which completely misses the point, look again :
while repeat(5):
do_x()
do_y()
do_z()
Nothing is provided just for the sake of looping. This is what I would like to achieve.
suggested solution 2 : use itertools.count
1) you're half the way there. Yes, you get rid of manually incrementing the counter but you still need for a counter to be created manually. Example :
c = itertools.count(1,1) # You still need this line
while( c.next() < 7):
a = 1
b = 4
d = 59
print "haha"
# No need to increment anything, that's good.
# c.incr() or whatever that would be
You also need to reset the counter to 0, this I think could be hidden inside a function if you use the with statement on it, so that at every end of the with statement the counter gets reset.
suggested solution 3 : use a with statement
I have never used it, but from what I saw, it's used for sweeping the try/catch code inside another function. How can you use this to repeat things ? I'd be excited to learn how to use my first with statement :)
suggested solution 4 : use an iterator/generator, xrange, list comprehensions...
No, no, no...
If you write : [X() for _ in xrange(4)]
you are : 1) creating a list for values you don't care about. 2) supplying a counter (_)
if you write :
for _ in xrange(4):
X()
see point 2) above
if you write :
def repeat(n):
i = 0
while i < n :
yield i < n
i+1
Then how are you supposed to use repeat ? like this ? :
for x in repeat(5):
X()
then see point 2) above. Also, this is basically xrange, so why not use xrange instead.
Any other cool ideas ?
Some people asked me what language do I come from, because they're not familiar with this repeat(N) syntax. My main programming language is python, but I'm sure I've seen this syntax in other languages. A visit of my bookmarks followed by online search shows that the following languages have this cool syntax :
Ruby
it's just called times instead of repeat.
#!/usr/bin/env ruby
3.times do
puts "This will be printed 3 times"
end
print "Enter a number: "
num = gets.chomp.to_i
num.times do
puts "Ruby is great!"
end
Netlogo
pd repeat 36 [ fd 1 rt 10 ]
;; the turtle draws a circle
AppleScript
[applescript]
repeat 3 times
--commands to repeat
end repeat
[/applescript]
Verilog
1 module repeat_example();
2 reg [3:0] opcode;
3 reg [15:0] data;
4 reg temp;
5
6 always @ (opcode or data)
7 begin
8 if (opcode == 10) begin
9 // Perform rotate
10 repeat (8) begin
11 #1 temp = data[15];
12 data = data << 1;
13 data[0] = temp;
14 end
15 end
16 end
17 // Simple test code
18 initial begin
19 $display (" TEMP DATA");
20 $monitor (" %b %b ",temp, data);
21 #1 data = 18'hF0;
22 #1 opcode = 10;
23 #10 opcode = 0;
24 #1 $finish;
25 end
26
27 endmodule
Rebol
repeat count 50 [print rejoin ["This is loop #: " count]]
Forth
LABEL 10 0 DO something LOOP will repeat something 10 times, and you didn't have to supply a counter (Forth automatically stores it in a special variable I).
: TEST 10 0 DO CR ." Hello " LOOP ;
Groovy
you can either write 1.upTo(4){ code } or 4.times{ code } to execute code 4 times. Groovy is a blast when it comes to looping, it has like half a dozen ways to do it (upTo, times, step, java for, groovy for, foreach and while).
// Using int.upto(max).
0.upto(4, createResult)
assert '01234' == result
// Using int.times.
5.times(createResult)
assert '01234' == result
// Using int.step(to, increment).
0.step 5, 1, createResult
assert '01234' == result