Presently, i am learning Java from the book The Art and Science of Java and following Standford's Programming Methodology Course.
I would like to do game programming, but only as a hobby.
I was thinking, would Java be a good choice or is C++ the defacto in game programming.
Since you are learning Java i would recommend that you stick to it.
If you are only developing games for fun, it won't really matter what language you use.
That depends, do you want to learn more about C++? Do you need to know? There's still OpenGL libraries in Java that are available, and the concepts would essentially be the same regardless of what language you work in. If it's just for a hobby then I can't see anything wrong with working in Java. In terms of speed however, lower-level languages are prefered.
Either would be fine. For a hobby, they both have pretty good low-level support for graphics etc, and both also have pretty good higher-level libraries for games (jMonkey engine, SDL, SFML, Ogre and many more).
You could also consider other languages too. Python has SDL bindings called PyGame. C# has the XNA framework which has several books published for it now to help learning the framework. SFML has bindings for C++, C, D, Ruby and I think Python. All of these are then suitable for creating games in. Just pick a language and off you go.
If you ask me, neither Java or C++ are fun languages. Both of them have a number of advantages but if you're doing it for fun and don't have deadlines, I would seek out a language that's more fun. Like Python, or something similar.
If you want to make games you really need a game platform as well as a language, otherwise you will spend all your time solving basic problems like how to draw a sprite to the screen, rather than concentrating on building a fun game.
Great choices for hobby games development are:
You can write games using both languages but I think you should really try C++. There are far more high-level libraries and game engines written in C++ than Java so it would be easier to find one that suits your needs. Not to mention that a lot of older games have been open sourced and you can freely download them and study the code. You can guess what language they're using ;)
Also you'll find a lot more tutorials and books that teach game programming using C/C++.
No matter what you choose in the end, have fun writing your games :)
If you go with Java, I recommend Computer Graphics for Java Programmers, by Leen Ammeraal.
If you were developing commercial games you would be using libraries rather than implementing these algorithms yourself, but it's easier once you know the fundamentals, which you can learn from a book like this one.
I once wrote a software renderer for a DOOM clone in Java, and having this book for reference helped a lot.
C++ is THE defacto language not only for game development but for pretty much everything else, including the browser you are using along with the OS it runs on.
So if you are considering ever getting serious with programming C/C++ should be top at your list.
As for speed C++ IS generally fast than Java. Why generally?Well, the truth is that C++ is faster than Java, is faster than pretty much everything else actually, but sometimes C++ code can be poorly written and Java may prevent beginners to make some mistakes resulting in many of the claims that Java is as fast as C++, there are even claims that Python/Psyco are as fast as C++ and faster than Java.
Keep in mind that no program written for a framework (Java, .NET, VB, etc) will ever run faster than a program that runs on a lower level (direct on the OS or even the hardware) like C/C++, ASM, Pascal and so on.
Take a look at this:
Poorly written C++ half the speed of Java, properly written is much faster
At the end of the day you should go with the language that you feel more comfortable with, remember that python is enterprise ready, commercial, stable, great for beginners, awesome to use on "Web 2.0" projects not to mention that is a lot of fun too.
Java - I'd recommend sticking to one and getting good at it. The ideas remain the same, and as you learn more about a single language, you'll begin to learn about the drawbacks and advantages that are prevalent in many of the programming methodologies and languages today.
Only a hobby? If you're using Java then Java. But first, what are you programming, 2-D or 3-D games? Java does both, and it's my game programing language, but I'm doing only 2-D programs. C++ is the defacto standard for serious game programming, especially commercial games.
Java has a great IDE called Eclipse, which, to me, is worth doing Java all by itself...Eclipse rocks! And it's free.
C# - no. Way too Microsoft dependent.
Btw, Java will work as an applet and as an application if you plan it well, the application runnable on all three platforms...
So, think about it. Low investment, high quality tools, cross-platform. If you decide to get into C++, then that's okay too. At least you will have wet your toes for free... ;-)
Language defines target platform and public. Both Java and C++ have advantages and disadvantages. You will use same architectures and algorithms on any platform. If you know how to write a game in C++ it takes a little to write game in java (2 weeks for me http://madeinsoviets.net/). Start learning game programming with C++ and some easy game engine (Ogre3D, irrlight) - much more information and tutorials.
Old topic but since people still read this i want to add my 2c since its unique to this post.
Stick with java, its a great way to make games over c++ if your going to do it as a hobby and by yourself for these 2 reasons.
Even if you never intend to get into professional game development there is one big advantage to C++, which is that you have a lot more resources available. There are more books, more tutorials online, more open source examples to look at and more people who will be able to answer your questions on sites like gamedev.net.
I have developed a couple of small games in both C++ and Java and I would select C++ everytime. It gives you the low level control which you just dont get with java. But games development is a whole different beast. So if you are looking to learn games developement start in something you are comofrtable with
If you think you may one day want to work in the industry, you should learn C++. C++ is used to make pretty much all commercial games that run on PC/xbox/ps3. I assume wii is the same but don't know 100%, I never worked on wii.
The games studio I used to work at (before it got shut down) used C++ for the game (small parts used C and assembler) and was starting to use C# for tools.
If it will only ever be a hobby, then it doesn't really matter what language you use.
I would suggest to try Haaf's Game Engine for C. It is very very simple 2D engine with good documentation, tutorials and examples, runs on Windows 98 and above and it is ABSOLUTELY free even for commercial usage!
If you're completely new to game development, it's right for you IMHO.
If you are just doing it as a hobby, it probably doesn't matter. Just use whatever you are most comfortable so you can get into the swing of game programming. Once you get better, you might like to figure out what is the "best" language.
I would definitely suggest C++ if your intention is general game programming. Of course, if you want to develop for a mobile platform such as Nokia and Ericsson then Java might be a good idea.
But if it is for general desktop gaming then definitely C++. If you want to deploy games over the net then flash might also be a good idea.
If you're planning to enter the industry (or maybe a day start to sell your game yourself), then you have to learn C++.
Java or C# are good choice to get to the point of creating game without worrying much about the machine (memory and speed). That's recommended for beginner, but I would personally start directly with C++.
If you're looking into game programming then C++ is the way to go. Sure Java will be good for certain games, but C++ is so much faster.
I've coded in Java before, and then started coding in C++. The time I've spent coding in C++ made me understand certain things that were heavily simplified in Java.
Depending on how much experience you have programming, I'd suggest to learn the basics of Java and then move on to C++.
If you start with Java, I recommend this book Physics for Game Programmers
In general, C++ is for real games.
Java has always been slow for me, whatever platform or program I use.
C# is better than Java, but not as good as C++.
Yes, there are exceptions, but the fact that they are so notable rather proves that C++ is just the way to go unless you really know what you're doing.
