a programmer at heart, by nature, and by trade: from applesoft & integer basic on an Apple ][ to feeding punch cards to a mainframe to refactoring greenbar printouts with a pencil to unix command line scripts on Cray at university to Foxpro and VB apps on windows 3.x and above to writing and debugging classic asp website apps with notepad to asp.net framework to asp.net core to now and beyond... what a long strange trip it's been!